We have long known that Oslo didn't lead to peace. But worse, it has become a prison for the Palestinians. It is time to reject its assumptions and demand full equality for Palestinians.
You make many excellent points. I think the biggest problem with Oslo is that it left too many things up in the air for later resolution and gave Israel a chance to engage in the sabotage it usual does and to continue to expand settlements, worsening facts on the ground.
A real settlement needs to be comprehensive and final and based on equality between the two national/ethnic groups on the land. Of course, the right of return must be respected and not ignored.
I think a hybrid solution of a federation is most practical and just, as envisioned by A Land for All.
They can call themselves what they like but this proposal certainly goes beyond traditional Zionism. You may kot get 100%, but If we get a large majority of both groups on board with this idea, it is workable.
I think this is a good solution but realistically requires complete and permanent abandonment of Zionism by ALL Israeli Jews and treat all non-Jews as equal.
I think the PA has expired as a mechanism for asserting the rights of a Palestinian state. As Israeli subcontractor, the PA is Israel's weapon within the Palestinian political system, and unless dissolved, it cannot merge with any of the armed factions like Hamas and still do Israel's bidding. The PA is also a convenient boogeyman for Israel and can be used to claim the Palestinians have a fractured national movement, therefore unable to control territory, and Israel acts to make this true, as it did after Hamas gained power. When Abbas eventually leaves, or if Israel fully melts down, the PA will either fundamentally change it's role in Palestine or expire with the rest of political Zionism.
Oslo should have been canceled the first week it was violated and the ramala apparatus ought to be destroyed all of them are illegitimate hostile malevolent malignant anti-civilizational Islamic toxic cunts. The answer is transfer transfer is the answer
Qataristinians far away from Israel and the West will be their new designation they haven't earned coexistence and need to be re-educated if not lobotomized, the one small school is making a difference in Gaza I'm still convinced they are all guilty except for those I've seen on film displaying pro civilization behavior.
The problem here is that you’re proposing the status quo ante Palestinian position before the Second Intifada. In other words, a binational state, assuming that’s the goal, would require the Palestinians to abandon any concept of a diaspora or of being any kind of collective unit with “national” rights no less than the ideological apparatus of Zionism and “Jewish peoplehood” needs to be dismantled.
And I think most Israelis would take that deal if they had the secure demographic majority that would come after massively bribing Egypt to annex Gaza (and, justice must surely dictate, some adjacent land for good measure) as the opposition has proposed. Of course this leaves countless questions of how to achieve socioeconomic equity and truth and reconciliation, but those are the details you so aptly identify as exactly what the Oslo process was able to deflect.
You make many excellent points. I think the biggest problem with Oslo is that it left too many things up in the air for later resolution and gave Israel a chance to engage in the sabotage it usual does and to continue to expand settlements, worsening facts on the ground.
A real settlement needs to be comprehensive and final and based on equality between the two national/ethnic groups on the land. Of course, the right of return must be respected and not ignored.
I think a hybrid solution of a federation is most practical and just, as envisioned by A Land for All.
They can call themselves what they like but this proposal certainly goes beyond traditional Zionism. You may kot get 100%, but If we get a large majority of both groups on board with this idea, it is workable.
Would appreciate your thoughts about this proposal. https://www.2s1h.org/en
I think this is a good solution but realistically requires complete and permanent abandonment of Zionism by ALL Israeli Jews and treat all non-Jews as equal.
I think the PA has expired as a mechanism for asserting the rights of a Palestinian state. As Israeli subcontractor, the PA is Israel's weapon within the Palestinian political system, and unless dissolved, it cannot merge with any of the armed factions like Hamas and still do Israel's bidding. The PA is also a convenient boogeyman for Israel and can be used to claim the Palestinians have a fractured national movement, therefore unable to control territory, and Israel acts to make this true, as it did after Hamas gained power. When Abbas eventually leaves, or if Israel fully melts down, the PA will either fundamentally change it's role in Palestine or expire with the rest of political Zionism.
Oslo should have been canceled the first week it was violated and the ramala apparatus ought to be destroyed all of them are illegitimate hostile malevolent malignant anti-civilizational Islamic toxic cunts. The answer is transfer transfer is the answer
Qataristinians far away from Israel and the West will be their new designation they haven't earned coexistence and need to be re-educated if not lobotomized, the one small school is making a difference in Gaza I'm still convinced they are all guilty except for those I've seen on film displaying pro civilization behavior.
https://substack.com/@wdlady/note/c-147756731?r=36c3b5
The problem here is that you’re proposing the status quo ante Palestinian position before the Second Intifada. In other words, a binational state, assuming that’s the goal, would require the Palestinians to abandon any concept of a diaspora or of being any kind of collective unit with “national” rights no less than the ideological apparatus of Zionism and “Jewish peoplehood” needs to be dismantled.
And I think most Israelis would take that deal if they had the secure demographic majority that would come after massively bribing Egypt to annex Gaza (and, justice must surely dictate, some adjacent land for good measure) as the opposition has proposed. Of course this leaves countless questions of how to achieve socioeconomic equity and truth and reconciliation, but those are the details you so aptly identify as exactly what the Oslo process was able to deflect.